Level too low for HOL1 ??

[MetaphysicalMojo]

I just finished The Quest and the first of the expansion games, the islands. Great stuff. Enjoyed it immensely

However, I am finding that my character, a magic heavy, level 22 undead with Mithril Armor and a RedShift Hammer is in no way ready for HOL 1.

In reading the forums, it looks like HOL 1 is for a minimum of level 24.

Should I have finished the first two modules at a higher level? I thought I killed everything in sight and did every quest.

I got to HOL 1 and the one eyed cyclops moles and after what seemed like hundreds of saves / reloads, there is no way I can kill these things. In fact, I can't take a single hit. One hit is death.

Is there some trick to these things or am I just not high enough level to fight them? Do I need to restart at the beginning and play as a fighter with all points put to endurance?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

[Felseth]

No suggestions because I have the exact same problem. I finished Quest / Islands of Fire and Ice at level 21 and I too got whipped by the 'moles from hell'.

Not sure what to do except for restart with focus on leveling and endurance.

A couple of questions though:

If I have to restart, it would be nice to have the new graphics, any word on when those will be out for the iPad/iPhone?

Do the mobs re-spawn in the Quest? If they do I could just go back and kill more and level up that way.

[wolf3167]

Have you enchanted your gear with appropriate enchantments? Are you using the best possible gear that you can acquire? The moles are annoying, but definitely manageable. Also, I might recommend using protection magic (a scroll or staff works if your protection magic skill level is low). Going into the HOL expansions, there is a significant jump in difficulty, and you will be forced to become increasingly reliant on your gear enchantments.

[Elendil / Redshift]

If I have to restart, it would be nice to have the new graphics, any word on when those will be out for the iPad/iPhone?

Do the mobs re-spawn in the Quest? If they do I could just go back and kill more and level up that way.

I'm working on the iPad version, but it's a bit more involved than anticipated... It's likely that it'll only be ready in june. And that'll only be the main game and Isles of Ice and Fire.

Monsters respawn, yes. After one week, in game time. (If you enter an area/dungeon level, the timer restarts.)

[Catacomber]

I found running a big help. Run as fast as you can to somewhere where you are safe---holes--anything.

[Felseth]

it seems like I am going to have to wait until June. I focused too much on magic and not enough on melee attributes. I tried buying new armor and enchanting it with endurance but I still can't take out one mole without dying. It will be fun going through it again with a different focus and new graphics. in the mean time I may spend a week in the tavern, let things respawn and go level up a bit and see how that works out.

[abstractcolors215]

Regarding the moles, I didn't have too much of a problem. What I did is level up enough until they were just a small challenge to deal with. That's what worked for me. :]

[DeMenchev]

How about AC and armor skill enchantments instead of Endurance?

[Felseth]

FINALLY !!! Killed a mole... And more.

Enchanted Amulet and Shield with endurance got me to the point where I can take more than 1 hit. Of course it takes 7 or 8 healing potions per mole, but hey I am back in the game. I also leveled up to 24 in the Isles before doing the enchantments.

Thanks all for the suggestions.

[wolf3167]

Nice work. You should have little trouble finishing the rest of the expansion at this point (at least combat-wise). To be honest, the hardest part of the HOL expansions (at least for me) has always been the beginning, when you are still trying to get your gear caught up to the expansion's basic stat requirements so that you aren't slaughtered immediately.

Best of luck!